Best/Worst of the Web

[Harrison]

The WRC coverage is definitely quite bad. And I totally agree regarding the F1 coverage. It is getting worse with each race/year, although outside of Europe they do have to take the live feeds directly from the local network who are filming it so they are at the mercy of the local producer. The biggest thing that bugs me is when they cut off the drivers talking half way through. Some races we have only see the winner speak and then they have cut away before we can hear the second and third place drivers speak. Very annoying.

[Demon Cleaner]

So you haven't actually been paying to watch subscription channels on your Dreambox then?

Nah. You think a true p2p and torrent user would pay for watching TV? I get my keys off the net, and install my Softcams to run them, why else do I have a Dreambox for

[AlexJ]

The WRC coverage is definitely quite bad. And I totally agree regarding the F1 coverage. It is getting worse with each race/year, although outside of Europe they do have to take the live feeds directly from the local network who are filming it so they are at the mercy of the local producer. The biggest thing that bugs me is when they cut off the drivers talking half way through. Some races we have only see the winner speak and then they have cut away before we can hear the second and third place drivers speak. Very annoying.

They have always taken the local network's pictures except in the UK (even back in the days of the BBC covering it, it's known as the world feed and you can tell when it's being shown by the F1 logo in the corner), but this year for all but three races the local network's have been replaced by FOM who are doing a much better job. But ITV's contributions are pretty poor with the exception of the gridwalk before the race. Hamiltonmania is getting out of hand, and I feel sorry for the other countries that take ITV's commentary and have to put up with it, if many Brits are getting fed up imagine how the Aussies etc. feel about it. Let's have a bit of balance in the coverage. Oh and the interview thing gets on my nerves as well, instead of hearing from the people who actually took part in the race, let's instead hear from someone who used to be in F1 who watched the race on TV, so we get him telling us stuff we saw rather than hearing about the behind-the-scenes developments we didn't.

[Demon Cleaner]

The biggest thing that bugs me is when they cut off the drivers talking half way through. Some races we have only see the winner speak and then they have cut away before we can hear the second and third place drivers speak. Very annoying.

That is also a big plus of Premiere, as it shows the F1 on 8 different channels with different camera angles, statistics, or current race values. Also they show all interviews before and after the race, not that I'm much interested in it.

Better is when they show football, when there's cup or champions league, you can watch the match you want, or just watch the conference where you see all the goals and highlights during the matches.

[AlexJ]

That is also a big plus of Premiere, as it shows the F1 on 8 different channels with different camera angles, statistics, or current race values. Also they show all interviews before and after the race, not that I'm much interested in it.

Better is when they show football, when there's cup or champions league, you can watch the match you want, or just watch the conference where you see all the goals and highlights during the matches.

Sky do the Champions League multiscreen as part of their sports package. They used to do an F1 multiscreen but it was pay-per-view and at £12 a race wasn't popular enough to remain viable.

[Demon Cleaner]

Sky

I know, I know. But I cannot get Sky here, it's out of range. Isn't Sky 28,2 east?

[Harrison]

It is somewhere around that angle yes. But you couldn't get it without an official Sky box and viewing card anyway as it is locked into it's own system that other sat systems cannot access or decrypt.

It is very annoying that they stopped the F1 channel as I used to subscribe to that when it was available. Was it really £12 a race? I had no idea it was that expensive. I'm sure I got a special offer or something as I only paid about £50 for the whole year.

[Demon Cleaner]

50£ for a whole year is a good price. To get Premiere legally, you have to pay 650€ for a year for the whole bundle (about 40 channels), and even then, it's not legal, as it's a German service, and they don't offer it for Luxembourg. There are some small distributors here that give you a decoder and a pre paid card "under the table" and it works fine.

You can only get it when you open an account in Germany and use that for paying your monthly fees. But it's nearly impossible to get an account there, when you don't actually live there.

So as usual, the illegal method is the best, although it doesn't work all the time

One funny thing, the payable channels, like the cinema or special sports events channels are also free when using it illegally, but you have to pay for it when you have the legal package

And for the movies, I just d/l my keys daily when there are good films, and I can watch them on the Taquila channels.

[AlexJ]

It is very annoying that they stopped the F1 channel as I used to subscribe to that when it was available. Was it really £12 a race? I had no idea it was that expensive. I'm sure I got a special offer or something as I only paid about £50 for the whole year.

Possibly there was a season pass or something, can't remember. Only tried it for one race, and realised I spent 90% of the time on the main feed so was paying £12 simply for no adverts (and no James Allen, hang on, that was definitely worth £12!)