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    I detect some pessimistic sarcasm there Charlie. That's not like you!

    Paper these days in the west at least is made from sustainable pine forests so no real destruction of natural trees. And they are now utilising bamboo more now which is super fast growing for paper.

    We don't use the old fashioned photo albums. We make photo books online and then get the books printed and shipped. These are great for things like weddings and big holidays. Are we have some great memories of when Tom was young. Best pictures of the year in one of these books with the year printed on the spine. And we do look through them fairly often. One from a holiday in New York in 2006 is great because it was the biggest snow blizzard they had in decades the day after we arrived so there are some amazing photos in there of Everingham covered in 3 foot of snow.

    Plus we get canvas prints done for the best photos to go on the wall. I took a couple of really nice photos of Tom when he was really young that look great.

    Problem now with everything being 100% digital is we are losing memories. We never looked though photos much but they were there to reminisce when we did. Many houses now sunny have any ohotos on display. That's a bit sad. As a photographer I want to see more large scale epic canvas prints on walls showing the best moments of people's lives.

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    Not in the slightest Dave!

    Always the optimist this side of the fence!

    Digital Photo Storage can hold a huge pile of unnecessary data that isn't required for stunning 4K Quality. When you're hitting 100Mb+ for a RAW data image, that's some serious stuff.
    But if your using a powerful Telescope taking pictures of specific areas of the Andromeda Galaxy, you need hundreds/thousands of shots whilst tracking as the Earth rotates to achieve stunning results. - Look up Jon Chard on Facebook to see what I mean. - I can't link anyone because I'm not on Facebook.

    I don't do Social Media.
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    Large photos do take up a lot of space, especially when you also store a RAW file with the Jpeg. Higher end smartphones offer that ability that days but I bet hardly anyone actually knows what they are and how to use them. I've been utilising RAW files for a very long time. Photoshop added built in support about 10 or so years ago. They are great files as you are not restricted by the limited contrast, light balance, saturation etc as they are the camera sensor's raw data, whereas every image you normally see on a phone or camera has alteady been processed and filtered by the onboard processing.

    And yeah, those deep space radio telescope require a huge volume of storage. That single image released recently showing one area of the sky in great detail used Petabytes of data. I can't imagine the setup needed to actually process that data and create the final image. You couldn't load it in any home system. It would need a server farm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harrison View Post
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    And yeah, those deep space radio telescope require a huge volume of storage. That single image released recently showing one area of the sky in great detail used Petabytes of data. I can't imagine the setup needed to actually process that data and create the final image. You couldn't load it in any home system. It would need a server farm.
    Not quite Dave....

    https://astrobackyard.com/best-astro...hy-telescopes/

    The telescope has to be locked on to the North Star & then be capable of tracking to compensate for the rotation of Earth through GPS. This then allows a High Resolution & Quality Camera to take snapshots of the same relative spot in Space from our planet.
    All the captured Images are then run through Lightroom & exposed to each colour of the see-able spectrum to build up the finished picture. Hours upon hours of work using high End PC's provide satisfactory results. - It's a dedication most folk couldn't begin to appreciate.

    If you use Facebook, I do recommend you look up Jon Chard and see some of the fantastic Photos he's captured. Particular areas within the Andromeda Galaxy are just mind blowing & if that doesn't float your boat, some of his photos of our own Milky Way Galaxy are equally as stunning. Looking up at a night sky from the New Forrest in Holbury (Near Southampton) shows a clear band of stars that make up the disc of the Milky Way Galaxy we are a part of. - Just Phenomenal!

    Equally, his wildlife shots & family shots of two beautiful daughters are just as breath taking in their own rights.
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    I was referring to the James Webb telescope which is in deep space and not effected by Earth rotation. It orbits the sun, not the Earth. And it's images take a lot more to process than most images captured by a traditional telescope.

    https://webbtelescope.org/contents/a...or-images-made

    BTW, I know many do use Lightroom, and I have as a glorified image library tool since it launched, but it's no replacement for Photoshop to really work on an image. Lightroom has recently seen a big update that has added some much needed extra features and abilities, but if you have been using Photoshop for years it feels like trying to edit images with a hand tied behind your back.

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    BTW, your link has made me remember I was going to look into getting a proper T ring DSLR adapter for my telescope and Canon camera. To date I've just used an eyepiece adapter that came with my telescope. It does work but not like having the camera using the scope like an actual lens attached directly. I have managed some great images of the moon this way and some images of Saturn. But my telescope isn't that great. Just a starter one that was a couple of hundred to use with my son. Really want one I can hook up to a computer and have a proper tracking tripod head. But that's expensive.

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    What are your pictures of Saturn like?

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