GHost's movie timeline

[Ghost]

Seeing as that is in a galaxy far far away, it doesn't really fit this 'alternative history and future timeline according to the movies'

But in all seriousness, I mostly stuck with movies that seemed to be able to co exist in the same universe without screwing each other up (to much).
So movies that for example have the West Coast nuked before, during or at the end of the story are automatically excluded as we see in later movies that the West Coast is still pretty much around.
This also made it difficult I think to for example include 'Escape from New York'.

[Harrison]

Also disappointed that Star Wars was not somehow included!

Joking aside, that's quite some work combining and merging the timelines of so many movie events.

Are you sticking purely to films where the majority of events are human only and don't involve much alien intervention?

You have included Alien, so why not Predator?

What about 2001?

Battlestar Galactica robot uprising? (utilising the events of Caprica as a starting point)

And I can understand why you avoiding things like Star Trek because they have their own complete universe and timeline of events.

Definitely an interesting project and one which could lend itself well to fan fiction or graphic novels.

[Demon Cleaner]

You have included Alien, so why not Predator?

Actually he included Predator.

[Harrison]

You have included Alien, so why not Predator?

Actually he included Predator.

So he did. I admit I only skim read through it as I didn't have much time with my son hanging off my legs pestering me to rebuild his lego again.

[Ghost]

Hi Guys, I am glad to see that this little project is received so well. It was a lot of fun to come up with it and try to connect it all with each other in some way or another. (some ideas work well, others sometimes require creativity).

For example I had been thinking of adding the Mad Max movies to the universe but that instead of a world wide collapse of civilization due to resource shortages that it was instead just isolated to Australia and that the continent basically got quarantined from the rest of the world. But I am not sure if this would work as I don't know if Australia is mentioned in other movies I used.

I was also thinking of adding perhaps movies with other themes such as action (Die Hard, Commando), or Horror (without the sci fi) as I see no reason why it would have to be science fiction only.
Problem is that it has been such a while that I have seen some of those movies that I don't recall their plot or setting that well any more.
As for horror, that has never been my personal taste so that is why A Nightmare on Elm Street or Halloween are not included or some of the movies based on Stephen King stories, even if they could fit within this.

Now I see that some people are asking why I have included some movies but not others or particular television). There are various reasons for that.
DO remember that I mostly took inspiration from movies from the 80s and early 90s (and I smuggled in late 70s in a few cases) and I have been trying to stick to that guideline.

I will try to answer some of the questions you have asked me such as why I did not include some movies or series.


>Also disappointed that Star Wars was not somehow included!

>But I kinda know where you are & also glad in a way you didn't include the Star Wars saga. For me, it makes the same timeline Star Trek look wet (the last 2 Star Trek films were absolutely Epic for me btw)

I like Star Wars, the original trilogy and parts of its expanded universe in particular before Disney declared it non canon (don't care much for the prequels).
It wouldn't conflict with the timeline I made up, but it would not add much either to it. It would be just 'there'.
It is not like space explorers would find Darth Vader's helmet or a piece of the Death Star.
I think Star Wars was pretty much a sci fi movie franchise in this universe as it is in ours.


>Are you sticking purely to films where the majority of events are human only and don't involve much alien intervention?

Yes, a reason why I did this is because even in Ripley's time which is the 22th century there was no public knowledge about any sentient extra terrestrials despite that humanity have been exploring space for a while.
It is save to assume that intelligent life is really rare in the universe and that the governments and corporations have done a good job in covering up anything previously related to these such as the encounter with The Thing, the Predators' visits to Earth, the alien atmosphere generator on Mars. (anything to do with the Terminator and the Skynet future though only a few people knew of that in the first place)

I am sure there is some evidence and information about these but that it is kept well hidden from the general public.


>What about 2001?

That movie is a bit hard to integrate with Robocop preceding it and Outland that comes after it.
It wouldn't be impossible but I think it refers to some elements that were never mentioned in some form in the other movies that make a connection possible.
I could make up that for example the monolith in orbit around Jupiter was never discovered by any commercial spacecraft after Discovery's visit or that it was destroyed in some way, but it would have to go as by the time of Outland Jupiter was an industrial hub.

2010 is completely out of the question as it not only ended with Jupiter becoming a second smaller sun but that it was also done by an alien intelligence who made clear to humanity to stay away from Europa.
And as Jupiter is still Jupiter in Outland is could not have become a star.


>Battlestar Galactica robot uprising? (utilising the events of Caprica as a starting point)

Like with Star Wars it would just be there. It would not add much to the timeline as there are no reference to elements that could also be recognized in the BSG universe such as all Earth humans being part Cylon.

BSG and Caprica were also much later made than the movies I used for this timeline.

And last, I never watched either of these shows.


>And I can understand why you avoiding things like Star Trek because they have their own complete universe and timeline of events.

Exactly! It is pretty much self contained and could not be fitted into the timeline of the other movies. Stuff like the Eugenic Wars, Third World War (which First Contact showed was global), and it would have to be explained how after Ripley's era human society suddenly abandoned the capitalist market, embraced a large degree of socialism, did away with androids and corporations, and formed a Federation with other humanoid species not mentioned before.

On a side note, not much of a fan of the new movies


>Definitely an interesting project and one which could lend itself well to fan fiction or graphic novels.

I honestly have been playing with that sometimes, using the covert organization I mentioned earlier. I had been thinking of merging it with US Department of Science or 'The Shop' mentioned in some of Stephen King's storylines, an organization that deals with matters such as advanced technologies, genetic engineering, Artificial Intelligence, ESP, the Supernatural, Aliens, Time Travel, other realities and dimensions and so on. But as I don't use those stories it would be sort of difficult)

This organization was originally set up by the US government to study the unusual events and encounters in these movies in an effort to try to contain them, and in general protect society from any potential dangers (and study any commercial applications and possibilities). However it in general fails at any of these tasks as it is very difficult to prepare for a lot of these scenarios and develop a proper counter strategy to it.
Worse the organization even caused some of the dangers themselves with their own experiments in an attempt to harness some of these powers and technologies.

Eventually during the 21st Century it went rogue when governments were slowly being taken over by corporations and replaced by them.
Using several corporations of its own as a front in order to have an income (this based on some of the applications and technologies they have developed during their studies into these various subjects) this organization is still thinking it is fighting the good fight, but in general it has become as ineffective as the governments and corporations it detests.

I would love to do stories about this organization and its agents as they try to clean up the mess left after some of these movies and get an understanding of what has happened. Think sort of the X Files but from the viewpoint of the Syndicate.


Edit; thinking of it, I could include the first three Indiana Jones movies (sorry people, I don't like Skull) and the Rocketeer movie into this timeline. Will give it some thought.

[Kin Hell]

Years ago while I was talking with someone else about favourite 80s and 90s sci fi action movies we enjoyed the topic came up that some movies really could co exist with each other in the same universe

Just so we're all on the same page here & not wanting to appear pedantic ......

Star Wars is in a Galaxy Far Far away for sure (according to George Lucas) but it most definitely is in our Universe. In fact, George lives on Planet Earth, in the Milky Way Galaxy, in the Universe. There could be other undiscovered Universes, even parallel ones, but for what we know right now there is just one Universe.

But I kinda know where you are & also glad in a way you didn't include the Star Wars saga. For me, it makes the same timeline Star Trek look wet (the last 2 Star Trek films were absolutely Epic for me btw)

Battlestar Galactica robot uprising? (utilising the events of Caprica as a starting point)

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Before Ghost can reply, I couldn't help myself......

If you're referring to the 1978/79 version.... way too much "Cheese Factor" for me.

[Harrison]

No, the current version, plus the Caprica off shoot Cylon beginnings series.