QNAP TurboNAS TS-659 Pro II

[webdevii]

I set it up yesterday, with 6 Hitachi Deskstar 5k3000 2TB disks, and set it to Raid 5 mode. This was done very fast, I was quite surprised, the NAS did the whole Raid 5 configuration in about 10 minutes.

I also started copying my stuff to it, still will need longer time until everything is copied, but so far I'm happy with the transfer rate, which stays constantly at 70MB/s. Only copying from my main disk was a bit painful, as that one is always spinning because torrents are up/downloading, and so I only got 10MB/s.

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I dont know how your experience was with buffalo, but mine was terrible. 2 weeks after I had my unit it failed with an E07 logic board failure, we did the rma dealy got the mind you refurbished replacement unit, keeping in mind my unit was less than 2 weeks old, I felt short changed, but let it go. 2 months later same error E07 Logic Board Failure, once again did the RMA thingy mind you both RMA's were Advanced to be sure I did not get my same unit back. It has been running now for 3 months with no errors so far. Other than the unit being faulty oob, it was a nice unit, if you had lots and lots of free time to put up with the slooooww transfer speeds. So I began digging and found Synology and Qnap as 2 of a possibility of 3 or 4 others I wont even mention the names, I know from past experience with those companies they are junk oob. With all that heartburn and work, I found someone that offered me $400.00 Cash for the Buffalo I even tossed in my totally legal collection of software, movies and music

I just wanted to be done with it. Although with the sale of that came the agreement of me coming to his house to install the unit. I would rather do that than have the customer attempt it and jack everything all up.

So now that the saga of the failing Buffalo is over with, I just purchased the Qnap TS659 Pro II with 5 x 2TB Deskstar drives installed.

The question I have for you since you seem to have the same drives and I do believe the same unit, did you notice a big performance data transfer rates and what not. I do have Verizon Fiber Optic service with 50/50 synchronous bandwidth along with a dynamic IP.

With the Buffalo I was averaging 25 - 40 Mbs at best on the transfer rate up or down. Does it seem like the Qnap out performs the Buffalo. I so much wanted to have the Constellation drives installed but but got stuck short on cash so I had to go with the Hitachi Deskstar Consumer drives.

Also another question for you, I currently have all of the data that will eventually be installed onto the nas in the form of One File Rar's, the unit I have this data sitting on is a Startech 4 Bay Raid Box that plugs into my eSata controller. Can I direct connect the Startech to the Qnap and do a direct data transfer to the device? Or do I need to do it over the Network, as was with the Buffalo.

The only reason the Startech is in the picture is to be able to have space to archive up all the data into oone file rar's then transfer them to the Qnap. This way anyone downloading for one can just download 1 file, and for 2 if Qnap is anything like buffalo it will make any multi file folder into a zip called download.zip which I found proved too unreliable.

Thank You for listening and putting up with my bitching and whining, I do have plenty of cheese and a bottle of real wine. hehe haha just had too toss in a bit of humor to lighten the load.

Thank You in advance for anything you can do....
Regards
Rob

[Demon Cleaner]

My NAS is almost full now, only have 400MB left, and this is because of the loads of 1080p movies and series, which take now already 6.5TB of space.

I already deleted some of my retro stuff, as I mentioned in another thread I think, and I also deleted not needed stuff, like the japanese DC set. Also cross checked most of the stuff, as the US and EU sets basically contain a lot of the same stuff.

I even removed all my PS3 games from the NAS a while ago, and stored it locally, as it has already 2TB in size.

So I came to the conclusion to buy a new NAS.

Upgrading is not really an option, as I would have to remove all the 6 2TB disks to replace them with 3TB ones, 4TB being still way too expensive. And that would leave me still with "only" 18TB, minus the Raid 5, and to be even more on the safer side, I would like to be in Raid 6.

So I will probably buy the Synology DS2413+, which has 12 bays (biggest Qnap only has 8 as is more expensive), and I will then install 12 WD Red 3TB disks in it, which are 24/7 disks meant for NAS environments. The DS2413+ also gets very good reviews everywhere. You can even expand the DS2413+ with a DX1211, to have 24 bays, perhaps for the future

Then I can copy all my stuff back to it, and start collecting again

Extensive review can be found here: http://www.techspot.com/review/649-s...on-ds2413-nas/

With no real competition, the choice for those seeking maximum storage capacity in a NAS really need not look further than the DS2413+. As was the case with the DS2411+, we have found the DS2413+ to be an ideal solution for professional photographers, video editors and graphic designers who require massive amounts of storage out of the box with plenty of room to expand using Synology's add-on box.

Since reviewing the DS2411+, Synology has vastly improved its DiskStation Manager software -- and that’s saying something given how good version 3.1 was. Build 4.2 is more powerful than ever with support for all the latest technologies and features. It would be one thing to recommend the DS2413+ because of its unrivaled capacity, but we think it's one of the best quality NAS devices money can buy, in both hardware and software.

Score: 90/100

Pros: Plenty of storage and expandability, that's the number one reason to buy this NAS. Software is feature complete and accessible. Price is steep but reasonable given the competition.

Cons: We thought hard, the DS2413+ really is good.

[Harrison]

Now that is a serious NAS. I've not seen a 12 bay desktop NAS before and it looks like a nice solution. I noticed it has 2 LAN ports.. does it support LAN bonding? This allows you to connect the NAS via both ports to a supporting Gbit Switch to double the speed of data transfer to and from the NAS for much improved speed when multiple clients are accessing it at once.

Just remember that QNAPs support and community is one of the best in the NAS world and Synology's is often commented as not being so good.

Have you also looked at the rack mount NASs available? You can get 12 and 24 bay ones and a small rack cabinet on wheel that could be hidden under a desk could be an alternative solution. The other advantages of rack mounted NASs is they often have a UPS built in and a redundant PSU.

What you going to do with the QNAP once you upgrade? Sell it? Or keep it as a secondary backup solution? I know it is overkill, but you can set them up to backup the most important directories to the second NAS.

[Demon Cleaner]

The LAN bonding is called link aggregation, and yes, the 2413+ has that, although you need a switch with a IEEE 802.3ad standard, and as I looked around a bit, they're quite expensive. On the Synology site, they mention 3 of these switches which are compatible with the link aggregation function, the 3com 4200G, the HP Procurve Switch 2824 and the Voltek NSH-2926.

The rack mount NASs are also very expensive, that wouldn't be the best solution.

I planned on selling my QNAP, as I wouldn't keep it as backup, because I wanna run the 2413+ in Raid6 mode, so that we be already quite secure.

[Demon Cleaner]

Gonna probably buy it next week, I'm very close, 90% of me are fine with it

How much would you think I could sell my Qnap 659 Pro II with 6x2TB disks? I only find prices of the newer model, the 669 Pro, but it seems to be almost the same, and it is 900€, although the disks I have are not available anymore, but on my bill I can see that they were just 62€ anyway 2 years ago. My NAS was 1100€ with the delivery.

I could get the 2413+ here in Luxembourg for the same price like in the German online shop where I always order, but the disks are 7€/disk more expensive. I want to order 13 disks, to have one spare one from the start. I mailed the shop in Luxembourg if it would be possible to get a little discount on the disks, hopefully they will agree. On the other side, I wouldn't have to pay for delivery, as I could pick it up from there. Probably they also have everything on stock, so I could get it straight away, although they told me that it would be ready in 2-3 working days.

The other problem buying it online is, that I would have to send the money via bank transfer, as it will be almost 3000€, and my VISA limit is quite lower, and with the bank transfer, you never really have 100% guarantee, because if the money gets lost somehow, you're not really able to track it, and see if the seller didn't receive it or not, so I prefer to not use that method.

[Harrison]

I would definitely go with the more local store where you can collect in person. I never do money bank transfers for the reason you said.. you have no guarantee for your money and no way to dispute or reclaim the money if anything went wrong. Plus with the local store you can take drives back if they fail (as most carry a 2-3 year warranty against failure).

That is definitely some serious money to spend on a NAS, but it's also some serious storage too. If you get it I would love to find out how you get on with it.