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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Coates View Post
    I will now have to try and figure out how to make a formal complaint.
    Setting stuff on fire is a pretty formal complaint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Submeg View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Coates View Post
    I will now have to try and figure out how to make a formal complaint.
    Setting stuff on fire is a pretty formal complaint.
    Sounds good


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    I recommend a dirty protest.

    (Not from experience, mind).

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    I have a meeting with the Human Resource Consultant and the Facilities Services Manager tomorrow.

    I'm going to have to get those arguing skills out which have not been used much for a few years.

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    Make sure you don't lose your cool, as then you've pretty much lost. Is it worth taking notes of things that they say?

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    Yes, but I have a pretty good memory. I don't think they'll offer me the job back, not that I want it back. But they are not getting away with it.

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    It didn't go too badly and I didn't loose it.

    They kept bombarding me with rather vague sentences and explaining that 'this is the procedure', 'the procedure has been followed', 'the standard has not been met' etc, and not really explaining what I asked for. They seemed to be going round in circles and it was obvious that they didn't really know what they were on about.

    But, I managed to be very persistent and strict with them, and eventually they agreed to contact the school after the holidays to find out what they thought was wrong with my cleaning, and to have a look to see if there are any written records of the complaints made by the school.

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    Did you take anyone with you? because by law you can be accompanied by someone to witness the meeting and to give a third perspective on it.

    If you haven't played a classic game in years, it's never too late to start!


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    No.

    This meeting was not in accordance with any procedure or legislation, do I doubt the usual rights about taking a colleague or union representative would have applied. So they shouldn't have objected to me taking someone else. I did mention in my letter that I may take someone else, and they didn't tell me otherwise. However, I couldn't find anyone to take.

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    I got a letter back from the council the other week.

    To summarize so far:

    *Supervisor says the problem is 'little things'
    *Manager says there is a lack of methodical process and general standards of cleaning.
    *Human Resource Consultant repeats this.
    *My personnel file reveals that 'methodical process' refers to the fact that I walked over some clean floors, and 'general standards of cleaning' refers to some slightly dusty window sills, which were filthy before I cleaned them, the week before the supervisor inspected them.
    *Meeting revealed that complaints were made, but it was not known what the complaints were, who made them or when, and that there may not be any record of this.

    Guess what the letter says. (I expected either a load of made up crap OR a proper detailed explanation of what was wrong with my work).

    ... has now made further enquiries with regard to the issues raised by the school.

    It has been confirmed that, as discussed at our meeting, the school had raised issues with regard to your work. This included the lack of method, for example cleaning a floor and then walking back over it, and the cleanliness of areas you were responsible for, such as window ledges.

    Our records show that you were made aware of the issues through discussions with ... ... during site visits and in your probationary review meetings.

    All available avenues of investigation into your concerns have been exhausted and we now consider this matter to be closed.


    Rotherham Council should be ashamed of themselves.

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