Ready for a new PC

[Demon Cleaner]

It should fit and you can have 4 DIMMs fitted at once.

I know that, I just hope that they will fit, don't want to remove the CPU cooler.

[Demon Cleaner]

RAM is installed now, fitted without problems, still some milimeters between the plastic of the fan and the memory.

[Demon Cleaner]

That extra RAM really helps me a lot. When ripping Blu Ray discs or converting video files, it really shows. Whilst doing that, it takes already over half of the memory, like 6-7GB, which was not possible before, that's why it had these freezing problems all the time. It was so bad, that when you wanted to open a program from the taskbar, it took more than 5 minutes to open!!! Making it impossible to work, I always had to reboot the PC to free some memory again.

It's also a big change when having loads of tabs opened in Firefox, that was also slowing the PC down.

And of course extracting huge files kind of brought the PC to a halt.

At the moment I don't have any slowdowns, regardless of what I'm doing. I'm quite happy that I upgraded.

[Harrison]

With intensive tasks it is always the amount of ram that will help the most. Much more than a faster CPU.

[Demon Cleaner]

So here we are again. Lately I'm doing a lot again on my PC, reorganizing all my ROM sets and games and movies and series aso. And I noticed that my actual PC is struggling a lot lately, which makes working on it quite a chore, and takes even a LOT more time than eventually needed. If I have downloads running, archiving/extracting, plus copying stuff around and Firefox is open (which was now replaced by Chrome btw), then my PC almost comes to a stop, sometimes freezes then recovers, a bit painful is the least I can say.

So I thought that it's now 5-6 years old, perhaps time to finally get a new one, when I saw, to my surprise, that I bought it already in 2010!! Time passes very fast, didn't think it would have been that long, I remember it as it was yesterday. But then I thought that now would be even more the time to buy a new one, and I still have to check components, what I really want and need, but basically I'm still doing the same stuff on it, and multithreading is probably the most important in my case, gaming is not so much an issue, as I don't play AAA games on the PC, playing them on console, but I have a lot of games which are less resource hungry because they're already a bit older, or just not as demanding.

First I wanted to start with the right CPU, and AMD popped in my eye with their newer CPUs, the Ryzen models. The Ryzen 7 2700X seems to be interesting with it's 8 cores, would definitely not go lower than that. But I also saw their Threadripper (what a name) models, which seem to be ultra performant, the 16 core variant being the most interesting for me, as the 24 and 32 core ones are in a quite high price range still. What I have to do is find some good comparison between those two CPUs, and see if I would actually need a Threadripper. I have to add that the price doesn't matter, I buy a PC, as you probably notice, not on a regular basis, thus I want to have it future proof, and the price isn't so important. So I guess I might go with the 16 core Threadripper CPU.

Any thoughts?

Motherboard wise I think I'll go with the Asus Prime X399-A which seems to be really good. Didn't look and investigate others yet, this one popped straight away into my eye, but I might still do some research.

As I'll do with the RAM, I want to put 32GB, because in my opinion 64GB isn't needed, but of course I could be wrong. Now would be the time to decide anyway, so that I won't need to upgrade later.

GPU wise I guess I'll stick with a RTX 2060, the 2070 and 2080 still being too expensive, although sometimes the price between a 2060 and 2070 is quite small, also depending the maker. I don't know anything yet about the AMD GPUs.

EDIT: Was checking out the AMD GPUs, and I might as well stick with an RX590, first of all gaming isn't that important, and secondly, bigger factor, is that I only have Full HD screens, thus the resolution is lower.

I will also remove all my HDDs out of the case, putting them in an external enclosure, as I only need them as storage, but I have 6 of them, don't need them inside a case anymore. Plus I bought a 12TB HDD as backup for my collection, which will also fit in an enclosure, btw I bought one from Fantec, no RAID (still having my Synology), only the basic JBOD version of it. Will receive it tomorrow.



So I will only need to buy one disk, SSD of course, and will also have to decide which one. I guess a 500GB one is sufficient, having a 250GB at the moment, still free space, although only around 25%.

Any suggestions and thoughts are very welcome.

P.S.: I also received my new chair today, the amber Secretlab TITAN model, have to say, it's awesome

[Harrison]

AMD processors are definitely finally the best gaming and general purpose CPUs again at the moment. I would only really recommend Intel for productivity because they do still offer some advantages for things like video editing, 3D rendering etc. GPU wise try to get a 2070 instead of a 2060 because it's more like a cheaper 2080 and will future proof you if you decide to upgrade to 4k monitors in thr future. However if you can find a reasonable second hand 1080 they actually outperform the newer 2080 in some tests.. although they seem to be commanding more second hand than they were new at the moment.

CPU I'm not 100% sure on the best AMD ones to get at thr moment because they keep releasing new models. If I were going Intel I would only invest in an i7 or i9 because they offer far more over the i5. But you are paying 3 sometimes 4 times thr prices of a similar performing AMD CPU so it really isn't worth it.

[Kin Hell]

AMD processors are definitely finally the best gaming and general purpose CPUs again at the moment. I would only really recommend Intel for productivity because they do still offer some advantages for things like video editing, 3D rendering etc. GPU wise try to get a 2070 instead of a 2060 because it's more like a cheaper 2080 and will future proof you if you decide to upgrade to 4k monitors in thr future. However if you can find a reasonable second hand 1080 they actually outperform the newer 2080 in some tests.. although they seem to be commanding more second hand than they were new at the moment.

CPU I'm not 100% sure on the best AMD ones to get at thr moment because they keep releasing new models. If I were going Intel I would only invest in an i7 or i9 because they offer far more over the i5. But you are paying 3 sometimes 4 times thr prices of a similar performing AMD CPU so it really isn't worth it.

Ya know H....

I still canna believe your Banging on about AMD & Gaming. - Proper Tosh in every manner.

If you want a Gaming Rig with Stunning Productivity, Intel & nVidia all the way.

@ DC

Well done & special thank's for me not seeing your AMD suggestion earlier on. - It saved me & Harrison having another boring discussion about Intel with nVidia & AMD with ATI or nVidia; - Yuck!
The only thing I would have suggested would have been to go for a 1080Ti. - Infinitely more Cuda Cores & a much higher FPS rate than the the RTX2070 when gaming. You could have a grabbed a good 2nd hand Zotac Extreme Core Edition for the cost of the RTX2070.

GTX1080 Ti - 3584 Shading Units with 11GB DDR5 Ram giving Memory Bandwidth of 492.8GB/Sec on a 384Bit Architecture.

RTX2070 - 2304 Shading Units with 8GB DDR6 Ram giving Memory Bandwidth of 448GB/Sec on a 256Bit Architecture.

1080 Ti Pixel Fill Rate & Texture fill rate is 151.4 G/Pixels & 385.5 G/Texels

2070 Pixel Fill Rate & Texture fill rate is 103.7 G/Pixels & 233.3 G/Texels

To add, 384Bit Memory Architecture is like Butter compared to 256Bit (where's the 512Bit nVidia promised years ago??) & the 3GB of less Ram means you can't load as many textures onto the card.

Don't get me wrong, the RTX cards are awesome in terms of Real Time Ray Tracing, but it's only ever 60FPS @ best when doing so with the 2080 Ti's.

All I'm trying to say here is the 1080 Ti Smokes the 1070 in every manner. The 1080 Ti is approximately 50% faster on the best FPS you will see from the 2070.
I was lucky enough to buy mine from a guy that had two & he didn't even play games on them; - One was a spare, as he just re-codes Video & was gutted @ buying a 2080 Ti to see an identical Render rate comparing it to his 1080 Ti.

He did say I could have his 2nd card being an SLI nut, though I suggested he hung onto it as a back up card just in case. - I have a HB SLI Bridge on standby for the day he calls me to offer his 2nd 1080 Ti. - I'll be all over it like a rash.

The CPU you went for is simply awesome, so I'm more than sure you'll be floored with your new Rigs performance, & better still.....it's all brand new.

Pah, Bah & Meh @ AMD/ATI Harrison.