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    @Harrison
    You're not reading the previous posts again are you? We've done the VICE thing and now we're seeing which is the fastest.

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    Can't even get to any sort of screenmode select on 3.9. Tried Snoopdosing the problem and as soon as it calls for the keyfile it goes tits up. Not so sure as to why the OS4 is crashing though.
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    Just tried VICE on my PC and Wizball is better on the C64. From the fake guitar riff and all the 8 bit sound effects to the graphics and the sensitivity of the joystick. It's just one of those games where improved graphics and sound just didn't improve the game. Still one of Sensible Softwares finest games though.


    Also just realised that i've been using an older version of VICE on OS4 so i'll try the latest version and see how that goes.
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    I was actually interested in finding out how well the different Amiga versions of VICE ran. Especially comparing the 68K version against the PPC versions.

    Wizball was definitely a great game, although many people didn't seem to "get" it, and I suppose mixing a puzzle game and shoot em' up together isn't instantly logical to some.

    Thinking about it, the first version I must have played was on the CPC464 and that was playable. But I remember preferring the Atari ST version over the 8-bit version at the time. Enough so that I completed the game.

    I'm now wondering how the ST and Amiga versions of the game compare. I'm going to have to fire up lots of different versions of the game and compare them side by side to get a better perspective.

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    At last i've managed to get MagiC64 up and running under 3.9 (turns out i had to edit the icon so that it was to run in shell rather than workbench). However i can't get wizball to run and also it looks like even if i did it would only be running at around the same speed as VICE under OS4. Elite runs a little faster though.


    Looks like TiredOfLife and myself have opened a Wizball of worms as to which is the best version. I can just see Harrison with about 5 emulators up and running trying to see which is the best version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buleste View Post
    Looks like TiredOfLife and myself have opened a Wizball of worms as to which is the best version. I can just see Harrison with about 5 emulators up and running trying to see which is the best version.
    indeed you have!

    And yes, that is exactly what I will be doing. Will be interesting to see what I discover. I will create a new thread once I do this to discuss the different versions.

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    It'll be more intersting to see how many windows with different emulators running the same game you can get running at the same time without affecting performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buleste View Post
    At last i've managed to get MagiC64 up and running under 3.9 (turns out i had to edit the icon so that it was to run in shell rather than workbench). However i can't get wizball to run and also it looks like even if i did it would only be running at around the same speed as VICE under OS4. Elite runs a little faster though.
    I have Wizball running quicker using Magic64 and an 060 than Vice and a BPPC166.
    Something is not right.
    Can't get Vice to run under 3.9 using BPPC, keep getting exception errors.
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    VICE under WarpOS is somewhat experimental and tempremental. Frodo is a no go no matter what you have if you hjave a classic Amiga. It's slow and sluggish.

    Looks like we can conclude that VICE under OS4 and a 210Mhz PPC is as fast as MagiC64 under 3.9 with a 25Mhz 040 but as for speed of games it all depends on the age of the game as later games pushed the hardware more and so are slower on emulators.
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    @Buleste

    That is a pretty poor state of affairs.
    Should be better off using PPC.

    Pity the creator of Magic64 never got round to doing a PPC version.
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    It should be better with a PPC but as VICE is a port and most likely a port using AmigaOne hardware it's not surprising. If i was a better programmer i'd have a look at trying to optimise VICE for OS4 classic but i'm not so i can't. It's a simple case of PC itus with all OS4 stuff as they are all being developed on the more powerfull AmigaOne machines they are only being optimised to run at acceptable speeds on low spec AmigaOnes as they were the only computers able to run OS4. Now OS4 classic has come out we may eventually get some software written to run well on low spec machines but i doubt it.
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