Will get another new car

Yesterday I signed the contract for a new car, and I will sell my 3 year old Audi, if you remember the car, topic here.

What I bought? Another Audi, but the A3's bigger brother.

- Audi A5 Coupé 3.0 TDI V6 quattro with 245hp
- 7 gear S-Tronic automatic gearbox
- S-Line interior + exterior
- newest Audi MMI multimedia system with navigation, bluetooth, DVD, MP3/iPod/iPhone...
- Bang & Olufsen sound system with 14 speakers and a 10-channel 505W amp
- 19" rims, the rotors, same that I had on the A3
- full leather and heated, electrical sports seats
- basically every possible option is on the car, besides sunroof
- color is glacier white with tinted windows

I will already get it on the 10th of May, then I will post some pictures.

:thumbs: i wish i could afford that, taxes here are to much. We receive less money then you, and cars are more expensive.... much more... :thumbsdown2:

How much does a car like this then cost in Portugal?

I know that you pay quite a lot of taxes, when I was there 20 years ago, it was almost like 50%, which is crazy.

But is it not that the car price remains the same, it depends on the loan you take?

Wow! Now that is a very nice car. I love the A5. And they look really nice in white too. A neighbour has the S5 and that sounds amazing too.

I'm currently considering changing my car for the A6 3.0 TDi Quattro, but a secondhand one. A new one here would cost over £50K.

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Originally Posted by Demon Cleaner

How much does a car like this then cost in Portugal?
I know that you pay quite a lot of taxes, when I was there 20 years ago, it was almost like 50%, which is crazy.
But is it not that the car price remains the same, it depends on the loan you take?

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You pay taxes for the car, as any other product, but on top of that, they put an extra tax,

First search i got: 71.283,48€

http://www.guiadoautomovel.pt/audi-a...sel-34698.html

I will see what the same car is in the UK later. Will be interesting to compare the cost of the same car across different EU countries. I know the UK is quite expensive and in the past some people have actually purchased in Europe and then re-registered the car once driven back to the UK.

That's basically the one I will get, but no "clean diesel". Mine costs around 62.000€ here. With complete full options, I guess it would be 2.000-3.000€ more, but like I mentioned before, that would be with sun roof, which I don't want.

I'm eager to post some pictures, only 2 and a half more weeks to go :)

Here in Luxembourg the taxes are still quite low, compared to other countries, it's 15% at the moment, but from the 1.1.2015 it will go up to 17%. If you buy the car in Finland f.ex., as my girlfriend sometimes compares, you also pay a lot more, cars are already more expensive than here, plus the taxes are 22%.

With 62.000 euros i would pay the rest of my house.... i bought it in a 30 year loan... still got 16 years to pay it :unsure:
Is less expensive here to buy a house then to rent one. if i buy it, after 30 years is mine, so you only pay it for 30 years, if you rent is for the rest of your life, and the amount you pay each month is a bit lower. i am with a 380 euros a month for an total loan amount of 95.000 euros.
So i cannot afford a A5... i must stay with a Seat Ibiza 1.6 tdi ... :thumbsdown2:

It's always wise to buy a house rather than rent if possible, because you know eventually the house will be yours and the money is going somewhere. Rent and it isn't earning you anything. Same here in the UK where most people prefer to buy. But some people don't have that option due to things like bad credit rating or they move a lot due to their jobs.

I know in some countries like France and Italy people used to rent more than buy. Is that still true?

I also couldn't afford such a car.. although I would personally also never buy a brand new car because they lose so much value as soon as you drive it. And a second hand Audi A5 is so much cheaper than a new one in the UK. As an example you could buy your new car with the same spec here in the UK 3-4 years old for about £16K and about 25K on the clock.

In Portugal people try to buy houses, not rent, but as you said, most people can't afford it. the effort rate (what you earn vs what you would pay for the loan) is to high simply because salaries are very low compared to rest of Europe. I was able to buy because i have a "not so bad salary" and my house was 95.000 (1 living room+1 bedroom+1 kitchen+1 bathroom) if i would go for one more room prices would go to 120.000, and that's for a 2nd hand house, a brand new could easily go to 160k/180k. I am at 30km from Lisbon.
My idea is that a lot of countries go for rent because is cheaper then buying. Not the case here.

Houses or apartments in Luxembourg are very expensive, I bought my house for 450.000€ in 2008, and I sold my 11 year old apartment of 85 square meters for 230.000. I was quite lucky, as I bought the apartment in 1997, and it was 5.350.000 luxembourgish franks, which are 133.750€, so basically in just over 10 years, I got 100.000€ more back than I paid for it, perfect investment. Prices were increasing very fast here, and still are.

You can always check out this site http://www.athome.lu/buy/house for some information about house or apartment prices in Luxembourg.

House prices are increasing really fast in the UK too. Buy it depends where in the country you live. In London and the south east prices are increasing much faster than the rest of the country. This is mostly due to the higher paid jobs and number of jobs being greater in these areas.

During the recession most houses lost a lot of value in the UK, with many owners in negative equity due to their house value dropping below the amount they owed on their mortgage. But this has changed in the last couple of years.

Where I live in Chichester, West Sussex, prices have really increased since the recession. In 2006 you could buy a 3 or 4 bedroom house here for about £225-250k, but now a 3 bed is about £260-320k and a 4 bed ranges from £360k right up to £650k. We also have a lot of house in this area way over £1 million. I was looking on rightmove the other day and there are some amazing places near me for sale over £3 million. It is amazing the cost of property.

But as you said, property is the best investment anyone can make. It will always eventually be with more than you paid.

A great example of that is my dad. He purchased a 17 acre woodland in Somerset in the early 90's for £22k as an investment. He sold it after he retired a few years ago for £90k.



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Will pick up the car in 1 hour, I'm quite excited :)

LOL new toy !!
put some photos here Demon!!

Nice! Can't wait to see some pictures.

We are currently looking for a new car for me wife. Not new, but nearly new. The one she really wants is a Volvo V60.. they do look amazing. But we can't find any locally and they seem pretty rare with low mileage.

The other car she is mainly considering is a VW Golf TDI Bluemotion Tech Match as their fuel economy is brilliant at about 74MPG! We have worked out she can save £120 a month on fuel with one, which is quite amazing. Plus road tax is only £30 a year, compared to £240 for her current car.

I made photos yesterday, and guess what, wanted to post them now, but accidently my copy/paste went wrong, I actually deleted them :dry:

I sometimes have that problem, selected 10 pictures, used CTRL to highlight one to delete, but instead deleted the other 9, my bad. The color of the highlighting in Windows Explorer is so very light, that you barely see it sometimes. Happened already to me with more important stuff too, very annoying.

Gonna take some new ones this afternoon, if it's not starting to rain, which it looks like. Otherwise I'm gonna take some like last time, in our garage at work.

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That looks amazing mate. White is definitely one of my favourite colours for Audi's. Always loved the look of the A5 and the interior is very similar to the last version of the A6 which I am currently considering myself.

Most importantly, is it great to drive? The 3 litre TDI Quattro is a great engine. I've only test driven an A6 with the same engine and that was brilliant.

Driving feels absolutely fantastic! It's so smooth, and the faster you go, the smoother it is.

uaaauuuuuuuuu so good looking car !!!
Automatic gears? Or can you change to semi-automatic? I guess you don't have clutch. Mas do you have option to go to manual/semi ?
Here do you put gears, do you have those sticks behind the wheel ?

It's S-Tronic, meaning you can switch to manual, then you can tip your gear "stick" to change gears, or pedals on the wheel. There's no clutch indeed.

@Demon Cleaner
"Money money money, must be funny, in the rich man's world" (ABBA).
C'mon pal, I'm just kidding ;)

What a great car. My trusty Seat Ibiza is now 14 years old. I would like to buy a new one but thing here are hard.
Congrats mate.

Forgot to mention that I also have the Audi Motorsoundsystem built in, sounds very nice!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNJbOMKFzLE

Stop it Demon, like Tolkien i also have an Ibiza.... so stop with that torture. :-)

Sorry :)

One day i will go to Luxemburg, then you pick me and my girlfriend and takes us to drink a "Super Bock" !

You're welcome to come, we have Super Bock in every bar in my hometown, plus we also have 3-4 Portuguese bars.

One day we will, we just need to put our lives in the right tracks, things here are not easy. So far we have a job, but is very difficult to put some money in the bank after paying every bills

@ DC

Nice machine matey. Congrats. :thumbs:

I brought my car to the garage for service, and guess what, I got a brand new A7 for 2 days as replacement. Like I said, the A5 is so great to drive, but to be honest, this one is even a step higher, omg, what a smooth drive. And it's just plain beautiful. I told the guy that the A7 might be my next car, and of course they give me then one to test drive, clever guys ;)

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Nice! :thumbs:

I do like the A7. The RS7 even more. Although the 5 door A5 sportback is also nice.

Personally I still want an A6 3.0 TDI, or the bi - turbo. Ultimate car would be the RS6, but not practical running costs for the distances I travel.

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Of course I also prefer the RS versions of the cars, but f.ex. the RS7 starting price is 120.000€, perhaps a bit too much :p The one they borrowed me is 80.000€.

I'm not a big fan of A4 or A6, looks boring to me, perhaps for older people, but they miss the sportiness in my opinion. Too much limousine.

If I were single I would definitely go for a 5 door coupe like the A5 or A7. However, having a family now, I need an estate car, and the A6 Avant is the one I would pick.. Although my favourite estate is the Mercedes CLS shooting brake. That is beautiful.