Tv change CRT out LCD in, question

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22nd November 2009, 16:16
Tiago

Tv change CRT out LCD in, question

Hi everyone,

i am going to change my TV-CRT to a new LCD.

Some advice please:

must be/have:

- Full HD
- 32"
- input 2 x Scart 21 pin (euroconecter)
- input 2 x hdmi
- VGA input

don't care about sound i use external amplifier/speakers

what can i buy around (500/600) euros

so far i found this one nice:
http://www.consumer.philips.com/c/te...5D.app101-drp3

Do you have a big difference between 50Mhz and 100Mhz? in CRT you can see it, and in TFT?

Can anyone point me others TFTs in 500/600 euros range?
Thanks
23rd November 2009, 13:17
Harrison

I highly recommend Samsung HDTVs. We have one as our main TV and it has a great picture. We recently upgraded to SkyHD and the picture quality is really good. And while you said you are not bothered about audio, this TV also has great sound. The menu system is also very nice with loads of advanced features.

Standard definition also looks very nice on Samsung TVs. On other makes I've always been disappointed with normal resolution images as they appear quite pixelated and poor quality.

For the money you have to spend you could actually afford a larger 40" Samsung LCD. The series 6 higher up series ranges by Samsung are worth looking at.

The other make worth getting is Panasonic, but they cost more and I think the picture quality of Samsung is equal, and sometimes better.

Philips image quality is also pretty good. We have a small Philips LCD in the bedroom which does have good picture and sound, but I don't think they are as good as Samsung or Panasonic.
23rd November 2009, 13:31
Tiago

About about connecting the Miggy? Do they need anything special, or any TFT will display the miggy?
23rd November 2009, 13:33
Harrison

Most have VGA or DVI inputs for higher resolution modes, and also have the more standard RGB SCART, S-Video and RT aerial sockets. So you can connect an Amiga easily.

I connect mine using an RGB scart cable.
23rd November 2009, 17:03
Tiago

Yes, in my CRT i use scart cable too.
What about WB in vga modes?
23rd November 2009, 17:27
Harrison

Most have a DVI port, which you can plug a VGA cable into with an adaptor. I've not tried an Amiga on the TV in VGA mode but it should work. I connect the PC up quite often.
24th November 2009, 12:42
Demon Cleaner

Samsung is really good when it comes to LCDs. I just bought (didn't get it yet), a new Panasonic plasma, 12th generation of plasma panels. They have the absolute top model, the Z1, which still costs 6000€, but that's just crazyness. So I bought their top model they have, the one from the V10 series, the TX-P50V10E, 50 inches madness!!!! It's still is the most expensive (besides the Z1) Panasonic model, which is around 2000€.

Reviews say that it's the best quality plasma you can get at the moment.

http://www.avforums.com/reviews/Pana...10-Review.html
24th November 2009, 14:11
Harrison

Is your new plasma full 1080p HD DC? I've noticed a lot of Plasma's are still stuck at 720p resolution.
24th November 2009, 14:34
J T

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harrison

Is your new plasma full 1080p HD DC? I've noticed a lot of Plasma's are still stuck at 720p resolution.

Not to butt in, but yes that the V10s are full 1080p. My father in law just got the 42"V10 and it's a ****ing ace telly, it's pretty much the same spec-wise as the nifty Z1 but less of a 'lifestyle' product (ie without the expensive wireless transmission, super thin-ness and a marginally less fancy bezel).

I want one too... I might find out about getting one as we may be moving into a house soon, we need a surround sound system too so it could be time to upgrade.
24th November 2009, 16:14
Harrison

I'm currently liking the new Samsung LED TVs. Have any of you seen them? They are amazingly thin!
25th November 2009, 00:03
Stephen Coates

I you probably all expected, I can't really comment too much on LCD televisions (CRTs ftw :)).

But my Grandparents have had Sony LCD TVs over the last couple of years and I thought they were very good. I think the big one that they have is 32", so no where near as big as some of the ones mentioned here.

Anyone here had any experience with Sony LCD TVs?
25th November 2009, 02:42
Harrison

Sony LCDs seem pretty good, but over priced compared to identical sized offerings from Samsung and Panasonic. And I don't ever think their image quality is quite as good as these other 2 makes either. Not quite the same colour vibrancy or depth of black when you see them running side by side.
25th November 2009, 06:08
Demon Cleaner

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harrison

Is your new plasma full 1080p HD DC? I've noticed a lot of Plasma's are still stuck at 720p resolution.

Are you kidding me :lol:

Of course I would buy a Full HD TV nowadays, and like JT mentioned, the V10 models really look awesome!!

What CNet wrote:

Quote:

The high-end Panasonic TC-PV10 series of plasmas delivers the overall best picture quality of any flat-panel HDTV we've tested so far this year.
10th December 2009, 15:56
Demon Cleaner

Got mine, and set it up yesterday, all I can say is :o there's really no words for it.
13th December 2009, 15:11
Tiago

Finally i bought it!!

LG 32"LH5000 100Hz with 2 scarts ; 4 HDMIs ; 1 VGA ; 1 USB

I am very happy with it! DVD;Playstations;TV; and also DIVX/JPGs with USB works very nice. Image quality is very very good.

Now i dont need a to read divx externaly,the TV just do the job :-)

I am watching now to eurosport in HD and is superb !!!! :)
14th December 2009, 14:09
Harrison

That is great you finally decided on one. LG HDTV's always look good when I see them running in stores.

My Mum decided to finally get a new TV last week. She initially told me she wanted to spend around £500, so I found her a nice full HD 40" LCD Samsung, and after looking at it in a store she was eager to buy it. Dad wanted to see it too before she did, so I took them both in to a store to have a look. However she then suddenly changed her mind after seeing the higher up larger models and so she ended up buying a 50" Panasonic Plasma and a nice black glass stand to go with it. It is a really nice HDTV and HD looks amazing on it. They purchased it at John Lewis because all their TVs come with a 5 year warranty, which is worth it over any slightly cheaper Tvs found online in my view.

And her new TV is arriving on Wednesday, so I'm going to be sitting in at their house for the day to recieve it and set it up for them. And I also convinced them to upgrade to Sky+ HD, which is being installed next Monday. So when we go to stay over Christmas we will now have a great TV setup to watch! ;) :lol:
17th December 2009, 13:01
Harrison

I set their new Plasma up for them and it is very nice. It is at the other end of the scale to the top end Panasonics, so doesn't have all the features such as THX settings, but the picture quality is very good. A 50" TV is bloody huge though! I told her I thought it was going to be too big when she decided to buy it, but her heart was set on it so she did anyway. It is simply massive, but at the same time you do feel like you are at the cinema. :)

Plus a nice bonus is that they have a Panasonic DVD Recorder/VCR combo unit and it has Viera link so can communicate with the TV via the HDMI cable, which is a nice extra, plus it has Full HD DVD upscaling with colour enhancer which works well. Even if the viera link is only used for things like auto switching it off when the TV goes into standby, it is still a useful bonus.

The model is the TX-P50U10B, which there doesn't seem to be much about online. In the store the information said it has a 100Hz refresh rate, but on arrival it states 400Hz on the box, on the labels stuck to the TV, and in the manual, so that is good. I tried some fast moving film and sports footage and there was no blurring, ghosting, stuttering or shaking during the movement. Everything looks really smooth. So it looks like it really is a faster refresh.

It also has a much higher contrast ratio that we thought from the store info too. 2,000,000:1. The menu systems are identical to the other Panasonic Plasmas such as the V10 and most of the options seem to be identical. I was also led to believe from some forums that it was based on another Panasonic cut down budget model that was missing some ports and features, but this one has the SD card slot and supporting image and HD video playback from it, so that is good and should prove useful for quickly looking at digital camera pictures.

Finally the audio quality is surprisingly good, and the virtual surround sound move, V-Audio, actually adds to the sound quality and really does make the sound space wider and better during films.

So £899 for this 50" Panasonic HDTV does seem a good deal. It can be found cheaper online, but you would only get a 1 year rtb warranty, whereas from John Lewis you get a full 5 year warranty with load replacements if your TV needs repair. So in my view the little extra you pay is worth it for the much better extended warranty.
17th December 2009, 14:50
Demon Cleaner

I also got the 5 year warranty from Panasonic themselves.

Don't know which model the U10 is though, usually it starts from Z1, V10, G10/GW10, S10 and then X10, whereas latter is only a HD-Ready plasma.

EDIT: I saw now that it is a 400Hz (mine is 600Hz), and that it has the imo "weird" IFC too. But this one only has 900 lines of resolution, whereas mine has the full 1080 lines.

Can you set the gamma manually on the U10? Usually it's set to 2.0, but 2.2 is the best option.
18th December 2009, 09:21
Cammy

I use a MTX LCD TV/Monitor with my A1200. It has a built-in flicker fixer, so all interlace modes look just as steady as they do through the Indivision in another A1200. I use a cheap RGB-S-Video adapter from Amiga Maniac, and the picture is crystal clear.

Here's a little demonstration video I made running Workbench and IBrowse on it, there's more info about the monitor on the page - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kaz6fNpHYIg
18th December 2009, 13:04
Harrison

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demon Cleaner

I also got the 5 year warranty from Panasonic themselves.

Don't know which model the U10 is though, usually it starts from Z1, V10, G10/GW10, S10 and then X10, whereas latter is only a HD-Ready plasma.

I've found out it is just a cut down S10. Same panel etc, just fewer inputs (only 2 HDMI ports) and it doesn't have the screen filter to reduce reflection, but I can say that wasn't needed as the TV wasn't setup in a bright room with any direct light on it.

Quote:

EDIT:

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I saw now that it is a 400Hz (mine is 600Hz), and that it has the imo "weird" IFC too. But this one only has 900 lines of resolution, whereas mine has the full 1080 lines.

IFC? What does that stand for?

In the manual it definitely stated Full HD resolution with full 1080 lines. And a real native resolution of 1920x1080. It will be the same as the S10, whatever that's panel spec is.

Quote:

Can you set the gamma manually on the U10? Usually it's set to 2.0, but 2.2 is the best option.

Yes, I set the gamma and other picture settings up at the time. I always like to make the contrast slightly higher, but the brightness slightly lower, so the black look really black.
18th December 2009, 13:07
Harrison

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cammy

I use a MTX LCD TV/Monitor with my A1200. It has a built-in flicker fixer, so all interlace modes look just as steady as they do through the Indivision in another A1200. I use a cheap RGB-S-Video adapter from Amiga Maniac, and the picture is crystal clear.

Here's a little demonstration video I made running Workbench and IBrowse on it, there's more info about the monitor on the page - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kaz6fNpHYIg

That looks great. Also would like to say what a great Amiga setup you have there. :thumbs:

Not heard of an MTX TV before. However I think most LCD TV/Monitors should be the same. Because of how LCD technology works it doesn't flicker anyway so it acts like a natural flicker fixer.

I was tempted to get one of Nathan's RGB-S-Video adapters. He let me know the other day that he has revised the design and is fitting an adapter port to the next one he is making, which will allow different connectors to use it with different systems (my suggestion ;)). So I'm tempted to get one of those.
18th December 2009, 14:59
Demon Cleaner

In the specifications of the S10 it says:

Moving Picture Resolution: 900 lines

If you compare with the V10, its says 1080 lines. Check specifications here.

IFC is the Intelligent Frame Creation, and if you enable it, I think it looks very weird, like if it was filmed with a handycam, looks really strange, I leave it off. Didn't try it with Anime yet, perhaps it's then better, as there's no "real" people on the screen.

Intelligent Frame Creation explanation:

Quote:

Designed to remove 'flicker' from fast moving action, the function adds extra frames to the picture giving them a smoother and more fluid appearance. These extra frames are created using a complicated algorithm which analyses the current speed and direction of on-screen elements.
18th December 2009, 16:54
Harrison

Looking at the page you linked to, the U10 spec is identical to the S10, and even looks physically exactly the same. Only differences I can see are 2 HDMI inputs instead of 3, and no PC Input, so I suppose it is a good 50" Plasma for the price.

I hadn't seen that moving picture resolution mentioned before. I've just been going by the Number of Pixels bit.