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Harrison
9th May 2007, 09:27
I was just looking up classicamiga.com links on Google to see where the search results for some random Amiga related keywords would place us, and found something funny.

On the official Cinemaware website I found someone asking where they could find a scan of the original Wings manual and the reply directs them to us. :thumbs:


Hey guys anyone know where I can find a scan of the original wings manual, I bought a a1200 the other day with original wings, but no manual, now it wants words on certain pages. I was hoping it might be on here but i cant find it, thx for any help on this. Im not sure if it is legally available I done a search and found nothing any info would be great thx.


The scan of the "wings" manual is available on the website classicamiga.com
It's a great game.

http://www.cinemaware.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1086

Submeg
9th May 2007, 12:54
No sh1t! That is both 1) weird 2) awesome! as if its not on their site? I swear it is, I go there all the time! Cool that they mentioned the site!!

Demon Cleaner
9th May 2007, 14:41
The scan of the "wings" manual is available on the website classicamiga.com
It's a great game.He should also have said: It's a great site.

Submeg
9th May 2007, 14:42
Second that. hehe

Harrison
9th May 2007, 14:43
Definitely :thumbs:

AlexJ
9th May 2007, 14:59
That must have been posted some time ago, as manual scans haven't been available since the move to the CMS.

Did you ever get round to scanning the Wings manual (http://forum.classicamiga.com/showthread.php?t=308) in a higher res Submeg?

Submeg
9th May 2007, 15:00
Not yet...but I can...could do so tomorrow.

Harrison
9th May 2007, 15:06
Would be great if you could. We definitely need to start getting scanned manuals on the site this week if we can.

Submeg
9th May 2007, 15:09
Cool, cool. Where were the rules for image size and resolution again??

AlexJ
9th May 2007, 15:11
If you scan them at a fairly high res (greater than 1000 pixels in both directions) and save them as high quality JPEG's, then send them to me, I can compress them down and pdf them up if you want (I've got quite good at it!).

Submeg
9th May 2007, 15:14
Cool cool, sounds like a good idea! cheers.

AlexJ
9th May 2007, 15:28
alex-at-classicamiga.com

Submeg
9th May 2007, 15:30
will do :thumbs:

Submeg
10th May 2007, 23:40
Ok, couldnt find the other topic this was being posted in but...Alex, I am in the process of uploading the Wings manual to the site...I tried to upload a single zip but my net was being stupid....so I have had to do it page by page, my apologies. I scanned most of the pages two at a time so its not too bad.

EDIT: Its up in Submeg folder...I also have these manuals:

* F/A-18
* Battlehawks 1942
* Don Bluth's Dragons Lair (also have box, but its slightly damaged)

AlexJ
11th May 2007, 08:09
Thanks :thumbs: I didn't realise it was as long as it was! The one we had on the old site was only 20 pages so thanks for taking the time to scan all 80! I'll try to get the scans cleaned up and package them into a .pdf over the weekend.

As for the other manuals - I'm sure they'd be just as appreciated. If the box of Dragon's lair isn't totally wrecked, it's quite possible it can be cleaned up using Photoshop, although if anyone else has a cleaner version then that'd obviously be easier.

Harrison
11th May 2007, 10:01
I may have a better set of Dragon's Lair box scans. I will have a look.

BTW, I have a new easier idea for adding box scans and other media into the site compared to the current method of having to manually add the html each time. I'm going to test the idea on my local server to see if it works, and if so it will generate the required html for you so you will just need to enter the actual file location and nothing else. If this works I will then add it to the site next week.

Submeg
11th May 2007, 14:14
Wait til I do the Battlehawks 1942...that is 130 pages...

AlexJ
11th May 2007, 16:33
I may have a better set of Dragon's Lair box scans. I will have a look.

BTW, I have a new easier idea for adding box scans and other media into the site compared to the current method of having to manually add the html each time. I'm going to test the idea on my local server to see if it works, and if so it will generate the required html for you so you will just need to enter the actual file location and nothing else. If this works I will then add it to the site next week.

I did notice that the majority of boxes are roughly the same shape (unnoticable difference at thumbnail size) so often reuse previous code with just the location changed (with the pixels etc. the same).

Harrison
11th May 2007, 16:57
The idea I have to to instead write a php script that takes the image name, generates a thumbnail, and then inserts it into the page with the lightbox code. The only thing required on the edit screen would be an input box for the original image filename and another for the image title (shown under the image and below the lightbox view.

The code would obtain the image dimensions and work out the thumbnail size, therefore inserting the correct sizes, and the code would automatically create the correct link code with alt and title properties.

But I do need to test if this will work as I haven't tried combining php inside the template structure of the games section yet so am not sure if it might break.

AlexJ
12th May 2007, 18:59
Just to check what the layout is.

I've guessed it to be:

Front Cover, Blank Page, Inside Cover, Blank Page, Credits, Contents, pge2-3... pg 76, Index of photos.

Am I right?

J T
12th May 2007, 19:01
Shiz, I really should dig out those scans that I did ages ago, like maybe 2 years or more..... think I'd done F/A 18 Interceptor too Submeg. Ooops

Submeg
12th May 2007, 22:48
Front cover,inside cover, credits, index of photos, contents, preface, pge 2 - 3,.....pge 76

AlexJ
13th May 2007, 00:28
Front cover,inside cover, credits, index of photos, contents, preface, pge 2 - 3,.....pge 76

Any blank pages between them? ('Dummy' blank pages need to be included so when the PDF is viewed as two-page layout, the two pages appear next to each other as they do in the actual manual.)

Submeg
13th May 2007, 00:52
Well then:

blank
Front cover
blank
Inside cover
blank
credits
blank
photos

Then the rest

AlexJ
13th May 2007, 01:08
Thanks. Two more things - the scan of page 13 has lost some of the text. Any chance this page could be redone? Also I can't see page 1 (Preface) anywhere. Have I just missed it or if it's not there can you reupload it.

Oh and is the back cover just a blank page or is there something on it (e.g. Company logo,copyright notice)?

AlexJ
14th May 2007, 09:28
Okay, the rest of the pages are done and ready to go, just need the two/three missing ones now.

Submeg
14th May 2007, 13:17
Just put those two pages up

AlexJ
14th May 2007, 17:17
Thanks - the final PDF (unless you can find any mistakes in it) is now available on both the Documents Server and Uploads FTP Server (temporarily until it goes live on the main site).

The size looks a bit excessive to begin with (16.5MB) but across 88 pages, it's 192KB/page. The original scans were 44MB and the cropped & cleaned JPEGs were 25.5MB so it's about as much as it'll compress without starting to make it unreadable.

Submeg
14th May 2007, 21:33
Yea I know its huge, but there are many pages and alot of stuff on them

AlexJ
14th May 2007, 22:48
Very true, the Amiga manuals were almost book-like in terms of the coverage. I think it's great to have the complete manual available, and with the new server hopefully the size won't matter.

One thing I noticed, there doesn't appear to be any controls guide or anything in the manual. Was a seperate command summary/reference card manual included?

Submeg
15th May 2007, 04:20
No there isn't, for Wings, the copy control was to enter a word on page 4, sentence 4, word 9...etc, there wasnt a wheel.