LastOS

[Harrison]

Had anyone looked at or used LastOS?

It's a preconfigured Windows OS build. It boots the DVD or USB stick into whichever Windows build you have picked, including Windows 11. It then let's you configure the build before installing the OS.

http://www.lastos.org/forum/index.php

[J T]

I assume it's not licensed (ie cracked or some other way in which the activation stuff is bypassed)?

[Stephen Coates]

Don't think I've heard of that, but it looks like a good idea.

[J T]

It does seem like a good idea. I'm not averse to acquiring software from friendly buccaneers on the high seas, but I am curious about the leagality of it and how/if that's been worked around.

[Harrison]

I've not tried it yet so unsure if it comes "unlocked" or if you need a license key.

[Kin Hell]

Downloading.....

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Hmmmm.....

Using Rufus to write the Last11.Pro.x64.PE_2022H2.iso to a USB Stick & Windows10 Pro threw a wobbly about a Virus.....

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G: is the 8GB USB Stick I'm writing the "ISO" to....
I have allowed the file in Windows Defender.... :hmmm:

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Might not get to play tomorrow....

An awful lot of Magic Smoke leaked out of my A1200 last weekend.....

Need to investigate tomorrow.....

:eyebrow:

....ffs....

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It might be the options I selected in Rufus when writing the stick.....:hmmm:

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FuX0rZ! :sly:

[Kin Hell]

I created a bootable USB Stick from the front end of software. If you try using <driveletter> with : after it, no dice. Just the actual letter in a DOS window? - Now there's a royal screw up!

With what is written to the USB Stick, it just sits there with the blue Windows Logo & does nothing.

I needed a re-install anyhow so no big heartache.... but not with Last OS. :dry:

[J T]

The possibility of having to mess around, and still maybe end up with it not working, is why I generally don't bother much these days with things like hooky software or modz

[Harrison]

I won't bother trying this out then. Shame. There are other projects to build a slipstreamed install.

[Kin Hell]

The possibility of having to mess around, and still maybe end up with it not working, is why I generally don't bother much these days with things like hooky software or modz

Indeed. - Even those programs to hack up the MS Install for a customisable install can really mess up big time.

[J T]

How much does it cost to get a genuine version anyway? I don't actually know.

[Harrison]

Depends how. If an upgrade from a previous version of Windows thrn you can sometimes get it free or a little a £15 for an OEM copy.

I've been tricking M$ out of free copies from years. Since Win7 and all my "free" copies it allowed a free upgrade to Win8 which I grabbed but never installed. But when Win10, if you had a copy of 8 you could upgrade for free. So got 10 free. Then with 11, if a member of the free windows insider group you gain access to beta and test builds of new versions, and they offered free upgrades to 11. So not had to pay for years!

Retain copy of 11 Pro is only £45 for anyone without an existing copy through, so not a huge amount. I remember paying £165 many years ago for a retail copy of Vista ultimate edition.

[Kin Hell]

And me H.....

Win XP Pro cost me a couple of hefty Licence fees & then....

I got Windows 8 Pro free from a hooky version of 7 Ultimate.

Since then Win 8.1 Pro, Win10 Pro & Win11 Pro have all been free. :shades:

[J T]

Retain copy of 11 Pro is only £45 for anyone without an existing copy through, so not a huge amount. I remember paying £165 many years ago for a retail copy of Vista ultimate edition.

45 quid isn't too bad actually, I was expecting a lot more than that. Funny how many things have gone up up up in price but OSses have come down it seems.

[Harrison]

True.. except remember when Windows 10 was released M$ stated it was the last ever version of Windows? And that it would just be continuously upgraded and updated over time into the future. Yet then Windows 11 appeared. Funny that.

[Kin Hell]

Retain copy of 11 Pro is only £45 for anyone without an existing copy through, so not a huge amount. I remember paying £165 many years ago for a retail copy of Vista ultimate edition.

45 quid isn't too bad actually, I was expecting a lot more than that. Funny how many things have gone up up up in price but OSses have come down it seems.

Bill had been Fu*king folk for too many years. Proper Monopoly. :sly:


True.. except remember when Windows 10 was released M$ stated it was the last ever version of Windows? And that it would just be continuously upgraded and updated over time into the future. Yet then Windows 11 appeared. Funny that.

I understood one of the reasons was for added Security via the new Trusted Platform (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Platform_Module) (Total Poo)

Intel ARM CPU's also benefit. The per Core Overclocking is awesome on these Socket1700 CPU's & Win 11 allows you to specify certain CPU functions to particular CPU Cores. Obviously, you'll want to direct the calculations to the better/faster Cores. :shades:

[J T]

True.. except remember when Windows 10 was released M$ stated it was the last ever version of Windows? And that it would just be continuously upgraded and updated over time into the future. Yet then Windows 11 appeared. Funny that.

I kinda remember it, vaguely, but I'm not so into tech news like I used to be. A bold statement like that seems (in the cold light of hindsight) to have been just marketing nonsense.

[Stephen Coates]

At least they aren't doing the 'rapid release' thing otherwise we'd be probably up to Windows 98 and beyond by now :).

When you consider how stable Windows XP became after SP3 and how many people continued to use it for so long, you could argue that the price of the license was worth it. I of course just stuck with a totally legitimate version which Harrison sent me years ago :ninja:.

[Harrison]

Stable version of XP? You must have been living in a parallel universe. I never thought it was that stable, even with SP3, compared to Win2000 Pro. As soon as Vista came out I moved on.

[Kin Hell]

Stable version of XP? You must have been living in a parallel universe. I never thought it was that stable, even with SP3, compared to Win2000 Pro. As soon as Vista came out I moved on.

Vista!? :huh:

It was the most useless version of windows ever after ME. :yesyes:

If you moved on, was it to the Mackintosh Platform? :ninja:

[Harrison]

:lol: right..

Anyway, I personally loved Vista Ultimate. But it only worked on a high end PC. If you didn't have a fast enough CPU or enough ram Vista didn't run well. I built a new PC just for Vista and thought it was great. It was the first 64bit OS I used as my main OS. XP 64bit was incompatible with a lot of hardware and useless for a lot of software. But Vista 64bit supported both 64bit drivers and applications from XP, but was finally directly supported by hardware manufacturers for drivers. And unlike XP it could run most 32bit programs.

But for me the main reason for Vista 64bit was the support for more ram as I needed it for 3D and video post production software rendering for realtime previews. In something like Aftereffects, software rendering for realtime previews eats up a lot of ram. As does large photoshop projects. 3D and other programs from Adobe and Discreet/Autodesk too.

[J T]

I quite liked Vista, and used it for a long time.

[Kin Hell]

Why was Windows Vista terrible?
Vista alone had 50 million lines of code, 10 million lines more than its successor, Windows 7. Because of the excessive amount of bloat and code, it was very slow on devices at the time, even on the latest and greatest hardware of 2007. This meant that it was more expensive to buy a machine that ran Vista properly. - 22 Jun 2020

Windows Vista: Why did it fail? (https://medium.com/techtalkers/windows-vista-why-did-it-fail-b3ba4bd08a74#:~:text=Vista%20alone%20had%2050%20million,machine%20that%20ran%20Vista%20properly)


Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Windows_Vista)

[Harrison]

That basically confirms my findings. I built a top end PC at the time to run Vista and it run well. But many others in lower hardware hated it.

[J T]

Windows 7 was undoubtedly better than Vista, but I do think Vista got a bit of a bad rap. The Aero interface was, for its time, very neat indeed.

I have been a Mac OS user for quite some time now - work imposed, mostly, but now I like and find it comfortable. Not very exciting though.