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Buleste
15th February 2015, 11:09
Hyperion, the makers of Amiga OS 4 have been declared bankrupt in Belgium.

http://www.faillissementsdossier.be/en/bankruptcy/1039367/hyperion-entertainment-cvba.aspx

Stephen Coates
15th February 2015, 11:32
That doesn't sound too good. Any idea why they went bankrupt?

Harrison
15th February 2015, 19:57
Apparently according to one of their directors the company hasn't gone bankrupt and it is an administration error. We don't know if this is true or not.. we will just have to wait and see.

If they did go bust it would mean OS4 rights reverting to Amiga Inc, which would probably be even worse.

The really sad thing is that regardless of ownership, no one is doing anything much with Amiga OS. OS4 really hasn't evolved in the last 10 years and is such in a dead end whilst they keep it locked into the dead PPC platform. They would only ever move forward by moving over to Intel and finally unlocking all the best PC hardware available to the OS. Imagine the speed of OS 4 on an i3, let alone an i5 or i7? That would be amazing.

Stephen Coates
16th February 2015, 09:53
Personally I'd like to see OS4 on ARMs. It would make a neat OS for a Raspberry Pi.

The only problem I have with them continuing to use PPC hardware is the cost. It is very expensive.

Phantom
13th March 2015, 14:28
Probably they aren't considering the latest statements, but following the super-expensive PPC route it's not good either.

Kin Hell
17th March 2015, 17:38
F'narrrrr! :lol:

flimbo
29th April 2015, 16:14
oh dear

SamuraiCrow
30th April 2015, 16:28
Amigas aren't multithreaded at the OS level. This includes the next gen systems. An i3 could keep up with an i7 and my RasPi B2 would not be much better than a RasPi B+ for running any AmigaOS or similar system. OS4 would drag on a RasPi even if recompiled just like it drags on a Sam 440.

Hyperion may not be bankrupt but I will be developing for the Apollo Team on FPGA instead of PPC. Aros works on Intel and RasPi using hosted on Linux and is still being developed. Why worry?

Harrison
30th April 2015, 16:52
All very well, but there is no commercial future in that direction of development, just a small enthusiast market at best, meaning inflated hardware priced due to limited production volume.

I really don't know if there ever would be a more commercial way to produce something at an affordable price point which would appeal to a wider market. The only logic future is to utilise Intel CPUs natively, as Apple did years ago when they saw PPC wasn't going anywhere.

Kin Hell
30th April 2015, 17:13
I'll endorse what H says above.

PPC is long dead...... in fact...it's "dead-er than dead" already, and many many years ago.
So much so, an 060 @ 50Mhz running OS3.9 with Voodoo/Radeon display completely annihilates even a Statchu modified PPC @ 333Mhz runnming OS4.1 Classic.

My F'naaaar earlier was a simple retort to the old Amiga OS infamous quote...... "2 more weeks". If they went bust or go bust, they deserve it in my books, for releasing a bastard-isation of the next OS after 3.9.
OS 4.0 Classic made me sell 3 complete PPC Amiga's, seeing 060's making 233Mhz PPC's look worse than an A1200 on stock 68020's.

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Wtf...... I can't edit my post??????

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Only this thread apparently...... ? ? ? :lol:

Nosferax
4th May 2015, 17:48
Well, a multi-processors patched AmigaOS running on a dual top of the line G5 would have been nice...

Kin Hell
6th May 2015, 10:52
Well, a multi-processors patched AmigaOS running on a dual top of the line G5 would have been nice...

Parallel Processing is where the PPC boards came to the Amiga. The original idea behind those boards was to run your Miggy on 68XXX & utilize the PPC chips much faster "MIPS"-idge for doing things like 3D rendering, etc.
The Amiga was even experimenting with Transputer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transputer) Chips for parallel processing. Sadly, we never saw them go mainstream in their day.

This is the Register's report on David May RE: Parallel Processing:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/18/heroes_of_tech_david_may/

Heck! - I was there in the day & it almost seems like only yesterday in so many ways.
^^^^^^ (Cr4p.... I'm getting 0ld......)

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@ Harrison

I did say earlier that we can't edit our posts on this thread. Is there a reason for that please?

Nosferax
6th May 2015, 13:57
Well, a multi-processors patched AmigaOS running on a dual top of the line G5 would have been nice...

Parallel Processing is where the PPC boards came to the Amiga. The original idea behind those boards was to run your Miggy on 68XXX & utilize the PPC chips much faster "MIPS"-idge for doing things like 3D rendering, etc.
The Amiga was even experimenting with Transputer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transputer) Chips for parallel processing. Sadly, we never saw them go mainstream in their day.

This is the Register's report on David May RE: Parallel Processing:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/18/heroes_of_tech_david_may/

Heck! - I was there in the day & it almost seems like only yesterday in so many ways.
^^^^^^ (Cr4p.... I'm getting 0ld......)

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@ Harrison

I did say earlier that we can't edit our posts on this thread. Is there a reason for that please?

Has anybody ever considered migrating AmigaOS to the Intel x86 platform? Apple did it for Mac OS X.
I believe it would then be more easy and less costly for people to build a compatible machine. The X1000 is way too much costly even for me who do have the mean to buy one. $3k+ for a PC today is too expensive.

Harrison
7th May 2015, 12:02
Yes, it's called AROS.

Harrison
7th May 2015, 12:03
@ Harrison

I did say earlier that we can't edit our posts on this thread. Is there a reason for that please?

Yes, it's because this thread was posted in the site's news and announcements forum, which is actually only meant to be for site announcements and can only be posted by staff members. I will move this out into general chat.

Kin Hell
9th May 2015, 12:45
Thanks H. :thumbs: