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Castelle
15th June 2008, 09:34
Hi,

Just a quickie,

I have downloaded the latest package for AmigaOS 3.x systems http://www.viceteam.org/amigaos.html but I can't get it to work ::(:hmmm:

Do I need to compile the source distribution: Tarball: vice-1.22.tar.gz on my system using an Amiga compiler ??? :unsure:

Please help :)

Thanks

Buleste
15th June 2008, 17:39
Have you unarced it to .tar and then again to it's basic folder? The other thing is that when you do have it running it's going to be very very very slow. It only runs at a good speed on Amiga ones.
You don't need to compile anything.
Also try the Aminet version instead as it's more up to date. Here. (http://aminet.net/misc/emu/VICEplus-AmigaOS3.tar.gz)

Castelle
15th June 2008, 18:34
Thanks for the info Buleste ;)

This being the case, are they *ANY* decent C64 emulators out there that are cycle exact for the Amiga? :(
The ones I've tried are not very good. The best one I can find at the mo is Magic64 but that one isn't that great...

Buleste
15th June 2008, 18:51
Unfortunatly there are no C64 emulators that run at the correct speed on any classic Amiga with every game. Some games will run at the right speed others won't. Graphics cards help but not a lot. Unfortunatly the moder emulators are ports from UNIX and are generally ported using AmigaOnes or under WinUAE and so aren't really optimised for running on Classic Amigas.

Castelle
15th June 2008, 19:12
Thanks for the update Buleste - I appreciate it :hmmm:

Demon Cleaner
16th June 2008, 13:55
I once ran Blue Max in Vice, but it only runs at 2 fps.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y184/cioprgr/classicamiga/amikitvice.jpg

Castelle
16th June 2008, 14:19
Thanks for all the info - I've now bought myself a C64 off of eBay for 20 quid! :lol:

I went for the classic C64 with the MOS 6581 SID chip as in my view all the best tunes were written for it and not the later MOS 8580 SID chip...

Have a look at these little beauties I won last night on eBay: 200231436289

This was after some furious bidding! :lol:

Just have to get a 1541 now, version 2, I think as its smaller!! :)

What are your views Demon Cleaner on this?
I'm asking cos you seem to be the C64 authority around here :)

Oh yeah, a XE1541 cable for transfers !! :)

Buleste
16th June 2008, 14:33
I got VICE running under WinUAE and managed to get 14fps on defender of the crown

Demon Cleaner
16th June 2008, 15:28
Nice buy, I also have the Final Cartridge III (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Final_Cartridge_III) which is a fast loader and indispensable if you're using your C64 a lot. It also has a freezer.

In the HardSID topic, Harrison already mentioned the Catweasel MkIV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individual_Computers_Catweasel) which I also have and it serves for a lot of things. You don't need a HardSID, you don't need an XE1541 cable, you can do everything with the Catweasel controller. If you're using the XE1541 cable, you have to use Starcommander, and this one only runs under DOS.

As for the floppy drive, I prefer the good old 1541, as the 2nd version is a bit smaller, that's no question, but it has an external power supply.

Harrison
16th June 2008, 15:58
Regarding C64 emulation. Why try to emulate a C64 on an emulated Amiga? Much better to use a native PC C64 emulator such as Vice. Runs full speed and much better.

Emulators on the Amiga were never on the whole that good compared to PC emulators. The ZX Spectrum was probably the most successfully emulated system on the Amiga, followed by the c64, although that was never full speed in my experience.

Buleste
16th June 2008, 16:10
I tried Vice on WinUAE just to see what it would do. A PC emulating a Amiga emulating a C64 was just an interesting if pointless experiment.
You're right about Spectrum emulation on AMiga being superb (although FUSE is bad.). I keep meaning to test other emulators on the Amiga. I'll get round to it eventually.

Harrison
16th June 2008, 16:36
BBC Micro and PC XT emulation were both pretty good. Atari ST emulation sort of worked, but I never managed to get any games to work, just GEM.

Demon Cleaner
16th June 2008, 16:59
A PC emulating a Amiga emulating a C64 was just an interesting if pointless experiment.That was my intention, to test if it would work, but unfortunately it's very slow.

Buleste
16th June 2008, 17:09
Faster than a normal Amiga though.