Anyone has manual/user's guide for Workbench 3.x ?

[Tiago]

Hi,
Anyone has manual/user's guide for Workbench 3.0/3.1 or 3.9 ?
so many things i dont remember how to do....

Thanks

[Harrison]

I've got a really good guide for the A1200 but I've just not had time to scan it all in yet. When I do, expect to see the PDF. :)

[Tiago]

Ok, if you see something about workbench pdf, doc... anythink let me know.
Thanks Harrison

[AlexJ]

The Commodore Workbench 3.0 User Guide is on my list of things to scan, I'll try and do that one next. May take a little while as it's quite large (about 200 pages). Will let you know when it's done.

[Harrison]

It would be great if we can get these manuals onto the site soon as I expect many people will be interested in getting hold of them.

I wonder what the legal standing is regarding this? Do you think there is any issue with hosting scanned copies of the old manuals? Does anyone actually own their copyright any longer? Passed on with the sale of Commodore? or not?

Regarding the A1200 guide I have, I might try and trace the original author, and if I find him try to gain his approval to host a copy of his book.

[v85rawdeal]

@ Harrison

I think I mights tsill have a spare Amiga Workbench 3.0 guide around. Will check and if I have, I will put it with the magazines for you.


Oops. Misread original post...

Tiago, I do have a spare Workbench 3.0 manual available if you are interested.

[Tiago]

I think the problem could be with the editor and not with the author.
The author could give you the rights to scan it but the editor could not be interested.
But you can try

[AlexJ]

Copyright status of the Commodore manuals is unknown. It's probably considered an orphan work, that is a work where it is difficult or impossible to establish and contact the copyright holder. These are still technically under (C) but have nobody to defend this copyright. In the USA at least, they're looking at changing the law to formally make orphan works revert to public domain. In any case, the chances of being contacted to remove them are very slim (probably far slimmer than the games manuals hosted).

[Harrison]

How long does the copyright on printed material last? If it is only 25 years then some of the earliest Commodore printed material will soon be out of copyright anyway, as will games manuals.

I don't see we would get into any issues over Commodore manuals. I think the real issues could come from any third party publications we would like to scan and place on the site, as most publishers are still going strong.

[AlexJ]

"3. Works first created on or after January 1, 1978 which are created by a corporate author enter the public domain 95 years after publication or 120 years after creation whichever occurs first."

That makes the earliest Amiga stuff officially out of copyright in 2084, quite probably we'll all be brown bread before then. For other books the law is:

"2. Works first created on or after January 1, 1978 enter the public domain 70 years after the death of the author if the author is a natural person."

A ridiculous law because you have to know when the author dies which for many authors of Amiga books won't be known. Again 70 years after they die is an unrealistic time to wait. Tracing them down and asking them is one (difficult) option or just putting them online and seeing if any of the authors gets in touch to give permission/request removal.

[Harrison]

Bugger! That's the expired copyright idea out the window then. :(

Approaching the publishers and authors directly has to be the only way then. Or we just offer then to registered members only on the site so they stay out of the public eye.

[FOL]

Simple, dont make it public, if someone asks, then you know, ;).

[Harrison]

True, but I want to make as much content public as possible on the site as it will attract more people searching for such files. Therefore I'm still going to try and get the permission from as many as possible.

[FOL]

True, but I want to make as much content public as possible on the site as it will attract more people searching for such files. Therefore I'm still going to try and get the permission from as many as possible.

Aye, but this very post will end up in search engine at some point, they will come, register and then PM you, ;)

[AlexJ]

True, but I want to make as much content public as possible on the site as it will attract more people searching for such files. Therefore I'm still going to try and get the permission from as many as possible.

Aye, but this very post will end up in search engine at some point, they will come, register and then PM you, ;)

It already is (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22True%2C+but+I+want+to+make+as+much+content+public+as+possible+on+the+site+as+it+will+attract+more+people+searching+for+such+files.+Therefo re+I'm+still+going+to+try+and+get+the+permission+from+as+many+as+possible.%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a)! The forums here are crawled at least daily if not more often:

[FOL]

True, but I want to make as much content public as possible on the site as it will attract more people searching for such files. Therefore I'm still going to try and get the permission from as many as possible.

Aye, but this very post will end up in search engine at some point, they will come, register and then PM you, ;)

It already is (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22True%2C+but+I+want+to+make+as+much+content+public+as+possible+on+the+site+as+it+will+attract+more+people+searching+for+such+files.+Therefo re+I'm+still+going+to+try+and+get+the+permission+from+as+many+as+possible.%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a)! The forums here are crawled at least daily if not more often:

Ideed it is, :thumbs:

[AlexJ]

Just a quick update on this one, I haven't forgotten about it, it's just taking a little longer than I anticipated due to it's size and other distractions. Currently 4 of the 15 chapters have been scanned and cleaned (90 pages).

[Demon Cleaner]

:thumbs: Great job, seems that you still have something to do as there are a lot of pages.